Card
Ramos, Dragon Engine
Mana cost {6}
Legendary Artifact Creature — Dragon 4/4
Flying Whenever you cast a spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Ramos for each of that spell's colors. Remove five +1/+1 counters from Ramos: Add {W}{W}{U}{U}{B}{B}{R}{R}{G}{G}. Activate only once each turn.
No bracket restriction: playable from bracket 1. Part of 65 known combos. 4 official rulings.
- Commander
- Legal
- Printing
- Mythic · FDN · #678
- Cheapest printing
- €0.66
- EDHREC salt
- 0.47
- Color identity
- Black, Green, Red, Blue, White
- Keywords
- Flying
Bracket
- B1 Exhibition — allowed: No restriction at this bracket
- B2 Core — allowed: No restriction at this bracket
- B3 Upgraded — allowed: No restriction at this bracket
- B4 Optimized — allowed: No restriction beyond the banned list
- B5 cEDH — allowed: No restriction beyond the banned list
Why
- No Game Changer, mass land denial, extra turn, tutor or two-card combo
How Lotus Vault estimates a bracket
Bracket: Lotus Vault analysis, with Commander Spellbook flags
Combos
65 known combos.
- Ramos, Dragon Engine + Lux Artillery + Temur Sabertooth
Produces: Infinite black mana, Infinite blue mana, Infinite creature ETB
View on Commander Spellbook - Ramos, Dragon Engine + Lux Artillery + Drafna, Founder of Lat-Nam
Produces: Infinite black mana, Infinite creature ETB, Infinite green mana
View on Commander Spellbook - Ramos, Dragon Engine + Master Biomancer + Emiel the Blessed
Produces: Infinite blinking, Infinite colored mana, Infinite creature ETB
View on Commander Spellbook
Combos: Commander Spellbook
Rulings
- 2024-11-08 · Wizards of the Coast
Ramos's triggered ability doesn't trigger until you've finished casting a spell, including paying all of its costs. If Ramos has fewer than five +1/+1 counters on it, there's no way to add counters with a spell and pay for that spell with the newly-added counters. - 2024-11-08 · Wizards of the Coast
If you cast a colorless spell, Ramos's triggered ability triggers, but it won't get any +1/+1 counters. - 2024-11-08 · Wizards of the Coast
Ramos's triggered ability resolves before the spell that caused it to trigger. The ability will resolve even if that spell is countered or otherwise leaves the stack without resolving. In that case, use its last known information to determine what colors it was. - 2024-11-08 · Wizards of the Coast
Ramos's triggered ability counts the number of colors a spell has (from zero to five), not how many colored mana symbols are there in its mana cost or how many colors of mana you spent.
Rulings: Scryfall · Wizards of the Coast